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	<title>Comments on: Finland and education export: IKEA of schools?</title>
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		<title>By: Teemu Leinonen</title>
		<link>http://flosse.blogging.fi/2010/02/18/finland-and-education-export-ikea-of-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>Teemu Leinonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the &quot;anonymity&quot; - it was unintentional. It looks that in the single permalink page of the blog we are missing the authors name.

Ruth: I think there are many opportunities in online language learning. For instance, have you tried Busuu (it is not from Finland, but from Spain): 

http://www.busuu.com/

I think it is a great service and actually I actually  considered to pay their monthly fee (7.99 €/month) to improve my Spanish. I felt that even that I have free access to one of the world best language courses in the my University (Aalto University) the price of Busuu was reasonable because it provides me freedom from time and space to study. A sad this is that just when I was becoming a paying customer they screw up: post, probably by mistake, some of my written work publicly online without my permission and never replied me when I asked about it. 

Petri: What are the top US/UK Universities building and opening campuses in China or India? I haven&#039;t seen a single one. If I am wrong, let me know. 

I think trying to get to the international educational market with &quot;content&quot; (as it is commonly understood) would be a huge mistake. Content is still the king, the content is just today different.

We need &quot;content&quot; that is well-designed products, concepts, services etc. - something like a clever and affordable ICT devices for schools and universities (http://flosse.blogging.fi/2010/02/22/a-simple-ict-devices-with-simple-linux-to-be-used-in-schools/) or hmm... Busuu. 

Leigh: I think the Finnish Government should hire you to run the &quot;Education Export project&quot;. Free hint for the Ministry of Education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the &#8220;anonymity&#8221; &#8211; it was unintentional. It looks that in the single permalink page of the blog we are missing the authors name.</p>
<p>Ruth: I think there are many opportunities in online language learning. For instance, have you tried Busuu (it is not from Finland, but from Spain): </p>
<p><a href="http://www.busuu.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.busuu.com/</a></p>
<p>I think it is a great service and actually I actually  considered to pay their monthly fee (7.99 €/month) to improve my Spanish. I felt that even that I have free access to one of the world best language courses in the my University (Aalto University) the price of Busuu was reasonable because it provides me freedom from time and space to study. A sad this is that just when I was becoming a paying customer they screw up: post, probably by mistake, some of my written work publicly online without my permission and never replied me when I asked about it. </p>
<p>Petri: What are the top US/UK Universities building and opening campuses in China or India? I haven&#8217;t seen a single one. If I am wrong, let me know. </p>
<p>I think trying to get to the international educational market with &#8220;content&#8221; (as it is commonly understood) would be a huge mistake. Content is still the king, the content is just today different.</p>
<p>We need &#8220;content&#8221; that is well-designed products, concepts, services etc. &#8211; something like a clever and affordable ICT devices for schools and universities (<a href="http://flosse.blogging.fi/2010/02/22/a-simple-ict-devices-with-simple-linux-to-be-used-in-schools/" rel="nofollow">http://flosse.blogging.fi/2010/02/22/a-simple-ict-devices-with-simple-linux-to-be-used-in-schools/</a>) or hmm&#8230; Busuu. </p>
<p>Leigh: I think the Finnish Government should hire you to run the &#8220;Education Export project&#8221;. Free hint for the Ministry of Education.</p>
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		<title>By: Leighblackall</title>
		<link>http://flosse.blogging.fi/2010/02/18/finland-and-education-export-ikea-of-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-578</link>
		<dc:creator>Leighblackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As some one who often thinks of Finland, 3 things come to mind:

Free education
Design
A friend

I would very much like to see a concise ROI done for Finnish free education. A method that I could take and adjust for the Australian situation. I hope by using this tool, I might be able to show a positive ROI for a free education system in Australia.. such a thing would give a little weight to preserving free education in Finland - if Australian&#039;s are reconsidering their export business model...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some one who often thinks of Finland, 3 things come to mind:</p>
<p>Free education<br />
Design<br />
A friend</p>
<p>I would very much like to see a concise ROI done for Finnish free education. A method that I could take and adjust for the Australian situation. I hope by using this tool, I might be able to show a positive ROI for a free education system in Australia.. such a thing would give a little weight to preserving free education in Finland &#8211; if Australian&#8217;s are reconsidering their export business model&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Petri Lounaskorpi</title>
		<link>http://flosse.blogging.fi/2010/02/18/finland-and-education-export-ikea-of-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>Petri Lounaskorpi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree this anonymous writer, with small invests one gets small results. 
On the other hand, there is a reason why Big US and other universities are opening filials in China, India etc.

If the funds don&#039;t support content creation, there aren&#039;t any good for sale.

Sonera is still our own trademark, I don&#039;t know anybody else who is going to buy air...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree this anonymous writer, with small invests one gets small results.<br />
On the other hand, there is a reason why Big US and other universities are opening filials in China, India etc.</p>
<p>If the funds don&#8217;t support content creation, there aren&#8217;t any good for sale.</p>
<p>Sonera is still our own trademark, I don&#8217;t know anybody else who is going to buy air&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Vilmi</title>
		<link>http://flosse.blogging.fi/2010/02/18/finland-and-education-export-ikea-of-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Vilmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of good points here from this anonymous writer. I agree with his views on keeping education free in Finland. 

I don&#039;t see how Finns could sell international schools abroad though using Finnish teachers - the Finnish system could be used, but only if the teachers don&#039;t speak Finglish, and if it&#039;s marketed very cleverly. Also, Finland could design, sell good online courses abroad if they paid native speakers of XXX language as tutors. I wouldn&#039;t advise it as a way to make money though, having coordinated the International Writing Exchange (IWE) since 1993. It worked well when it was free and I had groups of active students myself, but it was never a viable business product. http://www.writeit.fi/ruth/publications-and-projects/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of good points here from this anonymous writer. I agree with his views on keeping education free in Finland. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how Finns could sell international schools abroad though using Finnish teachers &#8211; the Finnish system could be used, but only if the teachers don&#8217;t speak Finglish, and if it&#8217;s marketed very cleverly. Also, Finland could design, sell good online courses abroad if they paid native speakers of XXX language as tutors. I wouldn&#8217;t advise it as a way to make money though, having coordinated the International Writing Exchange (IWE) since 1993. It worked well when it was free and I had groups of active students myself, but it was never a viable business product. <a href="http://www.writeit.fi/ruth/publications-and-projects/" rel="nofollow">http://www.writeit.fi/ruth/publications-and-projects/</a></p>
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		<title>By: gregrenu</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregrenu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I edited the following comment and removed some information from it, to make it non-functional as an advertisement. This is, however, an interesting example of education business in 2010. - Teemu

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FOR ALL CAREER RELATED NEEDS CONTACT US :
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I edited the following comment and removed some information from it, to make it non-functional as an advertisement. This is, however, an interesting example of education business in 2010. &#8211; Teemu</p>
<p>Established in 1997, XXX Edu-Guidance is a leading education consultancy services providing exemplary service to students all over India. We deal in Admissions to all major professional courses in Premier Institutes across India. We are your one step solution for all career related needs, it may be MD, MBBS BE, BTech (ALL BRANCHES), , MDS, BDS, BPharm, BArch, MBA, MTech, MS, , PhD or any other courses. We provide personalized career solutions on an individual basis keeping in mind the aspirations of our client as well as the affordability factor.<br />
FOR ALL CAREER RELATED NEEDS CONTACT US :<br />
XXX Edu-Guidance,<br />
XXX,<br />
XXX,<br />
XXX &#8211; P O,<br />
Bangalore<br />
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		<title>By: Teemu Leinonen</title>
		<link>http://flosse.blogging.fi/2010/02/18/finland-and-education-export-ikea-of-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>Teemu Leinonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Third disclaimers: I do not believe in private schools, because in most countries schools that are consider to be &quot;private schools&quot; are not really private, but get part of their funding from the tax payers and only part form the tuition fees. This is wrong. 

For me someone starting a truly private school with all the costs covered by the parents is fine, as long as they follow the national curriculum. For some reason I do not see this happening very much in any place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Third disclaimers: I do not believe in private schools, because in most countries schools that are consider to be &#8220;private schools&#8221; are not really private, but get part of their funding from the tax payers and only part form the tuition fees. This is wrong. </p>
<p>For me someone starting a truly private school with all the costs covered by the parents is fine, as long as they follow the national curriculum. For some reason I do not see this happening very much in any place.</p>
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